A video where the head of the National Security Service Arthur Vanetsyan and the Special Investigative Service Sasun Khachatryan have a telephone conversation has been posted on YouTube.
They talk about the arrest of the second president of Armenia Robert Kocharyan, the measure of restraint of the CSTO Secretary General Yuri Khachaturov and the arrest of Seyran Ohanyan. There is also a talk about attorney Vahe Grigoryan.
“Sasun Khachatryan – Now Vahe shall come to me, Grigoryan, Vahe will write something serious, and will make a speech and answer all the questions. Simply my speech shall not be right My speech shall not be right now.
Artur Vanesyan – No, no. Let Vahe speak as an attorney as an expert.
Sasun Khachatryan: As an expert. He represents this case at European Court as an expert, doesn’t he?”
Iravaban.net contacted Vahe Grigoryan, the attorney representing ythe successors of the victims of the March 1 case, he told us that he has not heard the recording yet, but he did not deny his cooperation with the SIS.
Journalist: Mr. Grigoryan, Sasun Khachatryan mentioned that you should meet him and you can present arguments.
Vahe Grigoryan- I have often had meetings in the SIS on that case, and from time to time I meet again. I have given them texts in their numerous documents.
Journalist – On March 1 case?
Vahe Grigoryan- Yes, on the March 1 case. I am the representatives of the legal successor of the victims.
Journalist- In other words, in any case you do not deny your cooperation with the SIS.
Vahe Grigoryan – I do not deny that fact, but in addition we also officially stated that the victims’ successors will cooperate with the Special Investigative Service. There is nothing strange about it. The problem is which part of the partnership refers to it. It is mentioned in the conversation that Vahe should make speeches. I do not know where Mr. Khachatryan said this; whether he was on TV or not; if he was on television, he could not have known that I was coming to speak because I had talked to journalists. This is not particularly important. I, of course, have spoken about it (March 1 case).
What is extraordinary in all this? I, of course, cooperate with the SIS, there should not be any doubt about that. We have also stated it officially. We have not cooperated with the investigative bodies who have completely directed the case in the contrary to the rights of the victims’ successors, in particular by accusing their relatives of being involved in mass disorders, showing resistance, and even for being drunk during that events. But in the last 2-3 months, of course, we have cooperated with the SIS and I personally provided them with documents.
During the last appeal, when it referred to immunity, I myself wrote a separate complaint, without cooperating with the prosecutor’s office, and the SIS, and I was not particularly interested in their position.
Journalist: Do you mean Robert Kocharyan’s immunity?
Vahe Grigoryan- Yes.
Alisa Chilingaryan
